Recycle Bin does not show items names but $GIBERIS.wtf

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Recycle Bin does not show items names but $GIBERIS.wtf

#1 Post by Forez » 29.06.2022, 02:10

When I navigate in FreeCommander to some Recycle Bin folder thus end up in e.g.

C:\$RECYCLE.BIN\S-1-5-21-3797103458-798797042-3558267449-1001

All I are are folders like

$RL87X54
&RTZKIJS


and files like

%I0EQUFD.wav
$RQTW607.txt


But when I repeat this in Windows Explorer I will still end up in

C:\$RECYCLE.BIN\S-1-5-21-3797103458-798797042-3558267449-1001

but the address bar will be showing [unless clicked for editing]

[RECYCLE BIN ICON] > This PC > DRIVE-NAME (C:) > $RECYCLE.BIN > Recycle Bin

and most important I will see proper original names of deleted folders and files. And also if in FC I will execute a shortcut from a Favorite Toolbar that has Parameter

-T -C -L=::{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}

I will see proper names of deleted items, but in this case from all Recycle Bin system folders that are located on my various drives



So why is there this dichotomy? Is this a bug? If I am not mistaken, these items look like when ages ago I copied in DOS files created in Windows - and thus encountered face flat the problem of exceeding DOS file name length limitation of 8 characters

I myself would prefer to see proper names always and not some encrypted gibberish - so that I would not have to resort to using Windows Explorer



I am using version 861 32-bit public on Windows 10 Enterprise 20H2 19042.746 x64
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Re: Recycle Bin does not show items names but $GIBBERH.wtf

#2 Post by Karol » 29.06.2022, 07:59

Open the Recycle Bin with the click on the symbol placed on the main splitter
or use the addresse:
::{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}

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Re: Recycle Bin does not show items names but $GIBERIS.wtf

#3 Post by Forez » 29.06.2022, 16:26

I think we are not on the same page here


What I use now as shortcuts does work. The problem is when I navigate to Recycle Bin - i.e. go to e.g. drive C and then open also with mouse or keyboard folder $RECYCLE.BIN and then its only sub-folder named S-1-5-21-3797103458-798797042-3558267449-1001. Because then I see that encrypted / truncated names - while in Windows Explorer I see full file and folder names

And it is a different thing to dig through one big Recycle Bin and a one hosting only items deletes from just one drive, as I am unable to apply in this overall Recycle Bin a filter that would show only files from one chosen drive - and the apply some other filter to those already limited results]
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Re: Recycle Bin does not show items names but $GIBERIS.wtf

#4 Post by Dreamer » 29.06.2022, 21:49

I think it's a standard behavior in all file managers, I tested 3 different file managers, it's the same in all.

Just use the splitter item, or create a favorite tools item, or lock the recycle bin tab.

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Re: Recycle Bin does not show items names but $GIBERIS.wtf

#5 Post by Forez » 30.06.2022, 01:02

Dreamer wrote: 29.06.2022, 21:49 I think it's a standard behavior in all file managers, I tested 3 different file managers, it's the same in all.
My stupid mistake - of writing dozens of post of different forums deep into night

It seems that Windows Explorer also mixes all Recycle Bin folder into one


But something being standard does not mean it is automatically good
Dreamer wrote: 29.06.2022, 21:49 Just use the splitter item, or create a favorite tools item, or lock the recycle bin tab.
This does not alleviated the core of the issue - or should I rather say: implication of the current inner-workings

Because what good is seeing in FC [or as it comes out also in Windows Explorer] a list of 10 000 files and 1000 folders deleted from 10 drives- in a situation when I am looking for the last file I most likely accidentally deleted from drive D but do not know its name? If I sort by Original Location, this hypothetical file will get thrown between files form drives C and E. If I sort them by Date Deleted, then such file might be shown long after those that were deleted after it. And If I use Quick Filter entering the file format extension, then I still might get hundreds if not thousands of results. And surely it is pointless to sort by Size because I would rather remember a part of such ambiguous file that its size

Thus: if FreeCommander would allow user to go into a Recycle Bin of an individual drive and see full names - while also limiting its content to only items from that drive, then it would be an extra feature


And so it seems that after all this is not a bug report - but a feature request with an inadequate topic title. [But I bet that it will be impossible to implement, if the operating system itself does not differentiate between individual Recycle Bins]

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Re: Recycle Bin does not show items names but $GIBERIS.wtf

#6 Post by Forez » 05.12.2022, 17:16

Dreamer wrote: 29.06.2022, 21:49 I think it's a standard behavior in all file managers
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But not in Windows Explorer, right?

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Re: Recycle Bin does not show items names but $GIBERIS.wtf

#7 Post by Dreamer » 05.12.2022, 19:19

Windows Explorer show the files in such folder differently, possibly using just redirect from that folder.

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