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Make CTRL + X / V keyboard shortcut use FC instead of Windows' manager [SOLVED]
Posted: 06.12.2017, 21:34
by Forez
My request is coming out from this discussion:
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8262
It seems that currently it is not possible to fully use FC as a file handler- the moment you evoke CTRl+C or CTRL+V, Windows comes into action. [And a third party software like TeraCopy is a workaround that does not work for every situation]
Re: Make CTRL + X / V keyboard shortcut use FC instead of Windows' menager
Posted: 06.12.2017, 22:07
by Dreamer
I'm not sure if this is possible, but perhaps a workaround...
New options similar to Ctrl+X/C/V (different by default, possible to change it):
- COPY option would move the item(s) to temporary file container "COPY" (and remove all items from container "MOVE", also it would remove any items from "COPY" container first)
- MOVE option would move the item(s) to temporary file container "MOVE" (and remove all items from container "COPY", also it would remove any items from "MOVE" container first)
- PASTE option would check "MOVE" container, if it contain items, they would be moved to actual folder (and remove all items from container), if not, it would check "COPY" container, if it contain items, copy these items to actual folder.
Re: Make CTRL + X / V keyboard shortcut use FC instead of Windows' menager
Posted: 07.12.2017, 12:23
by alf5000
I wouldn't want to have CTRL+X / V shortcut for FC copy.
maybe as an option, but as I said before I wouldn't use it.
I'm glad to have the choice.
For some tasks I prefer Windows copy for other tasks I prefer FC-copy.
Re: Make CTRL + X / V keyboard shortcut use FC instead of Windows' menager
Posted: 08.12.2017, 01:14
by Dreamer
As I said, default shortcuts would be different, so it would be different option, but it would be possible to set FC or Win operations for Ctrl+X/C/V, as all other options.
Default shortcuts might be Ctrl+Shift+X/C/V for FC operations.
Re: Make CTRL + X / V keyboard shortcut use FC instead of Windows' manager
Posted: 09.12.2017, 12:58
by Forez
alf5000 wrote: ↑07.12.2017, 12:23
I wouldn't want to have CTRL+X / V shortcut for FC copy.
maybe as an option, but as I said before I wouldn't use it.
I'm glad to have the choice.
For some tasks I prefer Windows copy for other tasks I prefer FC-copy.
I would use it mostly to avoid that annoying situations when FC is blocked because I executed CTRL + X and CTRL + V on a large file like a movie
But making this an option would be an optimal solution
Or a workaround to my issue would be if FC would simply not get blocked by such operation
Re: Make CTRL + X / V keyboard shortcut use FC instead of Windows' menager
Posted: 10.12.2017, 23:19
by Dreamer
Forez wrote: ↑09.12.2017, 12:58Or a workaround to my issue would be if FC would simply not get blocked by such operation
You can use F5/F6 + FC operation options as workaround.
If you don't want to use another panel, you can use F5/F6 with a dialog, "Use current folder" option and use the browse [...] button or the favorite folders button to copy/move.
Alternatively you can even change the Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V shortcuts to open Copy/Move with dialog options.
I know, it's not a perfect solution, but you asked for a workaround.
Re: Make CTRL + X / V keyboard shortcut use FC instead of Windows' manager
Posted: 02.01.2018, 20:33
by Forez
Dreamer wrote: ↑10.12.2017, 23:19
Forez wrote: ↑09.12.2017, 12:58Or a workaround to my issue would be if FC would simply not get blocked by such operation
[...]
Alternatively you can even change the Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V shortcuts to open Copy/Move with dialog options.
[...]
How?
Re: Make CTRL + X / V keyboard shortcut use FC instead of Windows' menager
Posted: 02.01.2018, 22:19
by Dreamer
Main menu > tools > define keyboard shortcuts > type "copy" in filter and replace the shortcut for option with F5 with Ctrl+C, same for Move.
It's not recommended though. I meant Ctrl+C and Ctrl+X (copy/move), Ctrl+V would be useless, since FC copy/move make these actions in 1 step.
Re: Make CTRL + X / V keyboard shortcut use FC instead of Windows' manager
Posted: 27.02.2018, 22:07
by Forez
And so I will not temper with that
So that is that, end of story; waiting patiently for a possible upgrade of FreeCommander that would remove those cracks through which Windows Explorer is squeezing itself into the file handling business in an unwanted matter
Re: Make CTRL + X / V keyboard shortcut use FC instead of Windows' menager
Posted: 15.01.2020, 19:41
by RickD
Forez wrote: ↑06.12.2017, 21:34
My request is coming out from this discussion:
http://forum.freecommander.com/viewtopi ... =20&t=8262
It seems that currently it is not possible to fully use FC a file handler- the moment you evoke CTRl+C or CTRL+V, Windows comes into action. [And the third party software like TeraCopy is a workaround that does not work for every situation]
I vote for this too, I'm in the habit of using the CTRL shortcuts but don't like the Windows native copy dialogs.
Pardon me if this is not the right way to up-vote a feature request, if there's a better way please educate me.
Re: Make CTRL + X / V keyboard shortcut use FC instead of Windows' manager
Posted: 20.02.2020, 14:02
by Forez
On a side note
The correct spelling is manager and not menager
I corrected the topic but to my astonishment, it did not made all of the replays to have it corrected also in an automatic way; and so I was able to correct only my own replies
Re: Make CTRL + X / V keyboard shortcut use FC instead of Windows' manager
Posted: 25.06.2023, 15:08
by Forez
Are there any new supporters of completely eliminating the Windows Explorer from being used for copy / move operations executing CTRL shortcuts within FreeCommander?
Re: Make CTRL + X / V keyboard shortcut use FC instead of Windows' manager
Posted: 25.06.2023, 19:10
by horst.epp
Forez wrote: ↑25.06.2023, 15:08
Are there any new supporters of completely eliminating the
Windows Explorer from being used for
copy / move operations executing
CTRL shortcuts within
FreeCommander?
No, as this is a Windows standard which all file managers support,
in addition to its own functions.
There is no need to use Ctrl-C/X/V in any 2 pane file manager.
Btw. the TeraCopy integration works fine here in several file managers.
Re: Make CTRL + X / V keyboard shortcut use FC instead of Windows' manager
Posted: 29.06.2023, 13:40
by Forez
horst.epp wrote: ↑25.06.2023, 19:10
[...]
There is no need to use Ctrl-C/X/V in any 2 pane file manager.
Btw. the TeraCopy integration works fine here in several file managers.
Yes there is, if you have invested time setting up a program like
HotkeyP or
X-Mouse Button Control or wrote an
AHK script for evoking such keyboard shorcuts with just your mouse buttons
And I do use
TeraCopy. But despite selecting now
Tools > Settings > Filter/folder operations > General > Copy > Use external program
and
Tools > Settings > Filter/folder operations > General > Move > Use external program
and pasting for them double-checked
C:\Program Files\TeraCopy\TeraCopy.exe
path - nothing has changed; i.e. I must choose
TeraCopy from the right-click menu [and my mouse hotkeys also still use
Windows Explorer transfer system]
Re: Make CTRL + X / V keyboard shortcut use FC instead of Windows' manager
Posted: 29.06.2023, 16:29
by horst.epp
For me, TeraCopy works.
Your settings are wrong.
Here my FC settings
- Screenshot - 29.06.2023 , 16_23_09.png (21.33 KiB) Viewed 7834 times
Here is the result of an FC copy, you clearly see it's a TeraCopy form.
- Screenshot - 29.06.2023 , 16_23_38.png (9.41 KiB) Viewed 7834 times
Btw. TeraCopy version is 3.9.7
For hotkey and drag and drop support, you must enable the Copy handler under preferences.